home page Grandparents: Samuel Paynter Edwin Dutson Elizabeth Hannah Kings Parents: Alfred Paynter Emma Poly Dutson Children: Maud M Paynter Alfred George Paynter William E Paynter Albert Edward Paynter Elsie Paynter Madge Paynter Bertha Paynter family links

The Paynter Family Alfred Paynter's family Parents: name born married died Alfred Paynter 24 February 1860 Cheltenham 16 February 1885 Gloucester Emma Polly Dutson 10 June 1858 Bishops Frome 16 February 1885 Gloucester Children: name born married died Maud M Paynter 1884 Gloucester George Biles Alfred George Paynter 1887 Gloucester 4 September 1920 Edith Emily Collins 8 August 1960 William Paynter 1889 Swindon Albert Edward Paynter 13 August 1890 Swindon 9 May 1917 France (killed in action) Elsie Paynter Frank Rix Madge Paynter Bertha Paynter

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The history of Alfred Paynter's family

By the following year they had moved to Swindon where both William and Albert were born. In 1890, Alfred was employed as a labourer in the Swindon railway factory.

They were living at 58 Mill Street, New Swindon in 1890 when their son Albert Edward was born in the house. The family were still living there at the 1891 census but Alfred's wife's name was given as Mary E. Paynter. We do not know at present whether Mary E. is the same person as Emma Poly.

Albert Edward's 1890 birth certificate

Mill Street no longer exists. The terraced houses on the south side were knocked down to make way for the original bus depot some time before 1940, and the rest removed during the redevolopment of the town centre.

During the First World War their son Albert was in the Royal Horse and Royal Field Artillery. He was 25 years old when he was killed in action on 9 May 1917 serving in "Y" 9th Trench Mortar Bty., Royal Field Artillery and is buried in the Point-du-Jour Military Cemetery, Athies, Pas de Calais, France. Athies is a village in the Department of the Pas-de-Calais, approximately 4 kilometres east of Arras, in the Scarpe valley.

He was probably killed during Nivelle's ill fated offensive in Arras and Champagne. The fisco only achieved an advance of 600 yards instead of the planned 6 miles with tremendous casualty rates. Nivelle was totally discredited and replaced by Petain as commander in chief. Petain's first task was to restore confindence of the soldiers amoungst whom mutiny had started to spread.

Albert Edward's 1917 death certificate

sources:
4 December 1999 - Paynter family
15 December 1999 - death certificate
4 February 2000 - birth certificate
6 February 2000 - Commonwealth War Graves Commission
7 February 2000 - 1891 census RG12/1584 folio 98 page 40
7 February 2000 - 1886, 1942 OS Wiltshire Sheet XV 4
10 February 2000 - 1881 census RG11/2576 folio 15 page 24
12 February 2000 - civil registration: births 1860 Mar Cheltenham 6a 415
13 February 2000 - Paynter family
14 March 2000 - civil registration
17 March 2000 - birth certificate
24 March 2000 - marriage certificate
3 May 2000 - civil registration
5 June 2000 - birth certificate

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